Innovator’s Dilemma at its Finest – SAP, Oracle, and the Cloud

I wrote previously about how disruptive technologies will save SAP. However, it’s worth understanding the large dilemma that SAP, and Oracle alike, are facing and why it’s important to understand how success is made with innovation. Let’s first start by stating the definition(s) of innovation as coined by Clay Christensen from the Innovator’s Dilemma.

Sustaining Innovations: What all sustaining technologies have in common is that they improve the performance of established products, along the dimensions of performance that mainstream customers in major markets have historically valued.

Disruptive Innovation: Disruptive technologies bring to a market a very different value proposition than had been available previously…Products based on disruptive technologies are typically cheaper, simpler, smaller, and, frequently, more convenient to use.

It’s clear – cloud computing has been disruptive to the enterprise space. As it’s popularity increases it will begin to “cross the chasm” and eventually become a clearly defined market. If you look at the early history of cloud computing (or actually really known as SaaS – Software as a Service) you’ll notice early adoption was quite low. No one understood why you would decide to use a CRM system hosted by someone else. Crazy right? It’s now starting to hit the bend in the hockey stick and is ripe for growth. In order to understand disruptive innovation, let’s look at first why this type of technology historically hasn’t been a sustaining innovation for Enterprise software houses:

  1. Both companies have not executed any real ability to create their own organic SaaS platform. SAP’s Business ByDesign has been around for about 5 years and hasn’t turned the corner yet.  I believe the reason for ByDesign’s failures were largely due to adding too many features too soon, and not really understanding how companies would use the technology. Yes, what I’m saying is that they tried too hard to create a product.
  2. SAP recently bought SuccessFactors for $3.4bn and Oracle has now bought both Taleo and RightNow.
  3. Cloud/SaaS solutions have done nothing to improve the performance of any existing technologies in the markets that SAP and Oracle have traditionally served, which is mainly large enterprise using on-premise software. In fact SaaS is about to eat their lunch.

Now let’s lay out why cloud is so disruptive:

  1. There is a different value proposition (hosted software, maintained by the vendor)
  2. It’s cheaper (straight forward subscription model), simpler (doesn’t require an army of consultants), and more convenient to use (have a web browser on your computer?)
  3. SAP is hurrying to use it’s RDS (Rapid Deployment Solutions) to combat and milk it’s existing on-premise software while it can
  4. SAP and Oracle make a staggering 90% profit margin on enterprise support. Even more interestingly, SAP is now trying to tell the market that they will be the first company to make the cloud profitable. I’m confused as to what core competency SAP possesses that will make that true. Throwing money at a problem doesn’t increase a profit margin.

Ultimately, I’m scared largely for SAP, and less scared for Oracle. Why? First, SAP is really damn good at selling on-premise software. This is one of the most important aspects of Clay Christensen’s theory on innovation. The firms that are most successful at sustaining innovation are also the least likely to succeed in disruptive innovation. Second, from my talks with sales/pre-sales/etc people at Oracle, their products largely operate in silos and tend to compete with each other. Yes, this already happens between Hyperion, JD Edwards, PeopleSoft, etc. So culturally they will embrace an internally competing technology much easier than SAP can.

On a somewhat related note, Mike Eacrett, VP of HANA Product Management in SAP Labs, talks about thinnovator’s dilemma for SAP HANA:

“We’re trying to manage disruption,” said Mike Eacrett, vice president of product management for SAP HANA at SAP Labs in Palo Alto, Calif. “It’s the innovator’s dilemma,” Eacrett said, “figuring out how to take advantage of new opportunities while managing change.”

I’m not so worried about the success of SAP HANA because the product was built largely out of a group within SAP (and from the Hasso Platner Institute) that has been known to be very autonomous from the rest of the business. This is exactly what Clay Christensen offers as a solution to the Innovator’s Dilemma – an autonomous group that acts solely without discretion of the overall firm. It could theoretically be seen as a sustained innovation in that is improves performance on an existing and established market (databases). The big question will be: if cloud consumes on-premise software, than where will HANA sit?

The truth is, SAP is in an identity crisis. It’s largely been seen as an organically growing giant. It’s now spent nearly $10bn+ over the last half decade on acquisitions and it simply cannot be the organic juggernaut it once was. This is largely due to the externally facing pressure from disruptive technologies. What’s worse is it still boasts it’s ability to innovate using its €1.7bn cost (2010) on R&D as justification. Again, the firms that are so certain about growing their portfolio of sustaining technologies in an existing market are largely in a worse position to support disruptive technology.

So what’s the solution? Simple. Well, simple for me to articulate, but not simple for SAP and Oracle to execute. As Christensen says:

“Survival depends on being able to disrupt yourself. Once you let others disrupt your business, you are heading down the path to death.”

In other words, SAP’s cloud computing division (led by Lars Dalgaard) has to aggressively compete against SAP’s own on-premise software. It has to act completely autonomously. Dalgaard is a visionary with some quirky and non-traditional management practices. Which is why I think he’s perfectly suited to lead the charge. But will SAP’s top Executives give in to the Street and become another software graveyard or take a short term hit for long term growth?

What do you think? I’m interested to hear others’ opinions on this.

EDIT: Changed some sentence structure in the second to last paragraph. Didn’t make sense before. EDIT2: Changed to ByDesign, not ByDemand. Good thing I don’t get paid to be a full time editor. 

  • http://twitter.com/SAP_Jarret Jarret Pazahanick

    I think you nailed it with the last paragraph that in order for the SuccessFactors and SAP cloud initiatives to truly be successful they have to directly compete with SAP On-Premise. ByDesign was purposely never built or marketed to do so nor were any of the OnDemand apps.

    • Roy

      I found the observation about direct competition pretty interesting, but had one sem-counter. SAP has always positioned its on-demand stuff as additive to the on-premise core, with functionality of the cloud apps calibrated to not only serve a business need through SaaS, but also avoid duplication of current or future functionality in the suite.

  • Anonymous

    Did I hear cannibalization of their own market share? 

  • http://www.JonERP.com/ Jon Reed

    Michael, I agree with your analysis to a large extent, though I’m not sure I think Oracle is much better equipped to deal with these competitive challenges, except for having a more diversified product line and a deeper war chest. 

    I don’t agree with your analysis of why ByDesign hasn’t succeeded though it may be that the why is less important than the reality. In the early years it was about not having the technical architecture right, and in recent years I believe we’re back to the business model cannibalization theme. I’ve lost track now of the times I hear about SAP downplaying ByDesign in favor of its on premise solutions. 

    ByDesign has around 1,000 customers and hasn’t had a bottom line impact on SAP revenues yet. If HANA had 1,000 customers the impact on SAP’s revenues would be noticeable. Therein lies the challenge.

    • http://www.techdisruptive.com Mike Bestvina

      “a more diversified product line and a deeper war chest” – That’s exactly my point. Oracle doesn’t care (as much as SAP) if one product cannibalizes the other. Whichever one wins, wins. What largely people see as a weakness with Oracle (i.e. poor integration) is actually a business advantage for them in this area. Truthfully, I have little insight to Oracle’s operations, but from the talks I do have with some of their sales/pre-sales people, they isn’t much synergy between sales departments across their products. Whereas SAP has much more of a global sales mission.  

      “I don’t agree with your analysis of why ByDesign hasn’t succeeded though it may be that the why is less important than the reality.” Are you talking about my comment of “ByDesign’s failures were largely due to adding too many features too soon”? 
      Actually, more my point here is that they tried to create a product that looked like BusinessOne, but in the cloud/on-demand. Customer’s largely didn’t want this. The early adopters are looking for a completely different set of value proposition that what SAP currently delivers. I think a blanket statement of “SAP doesn’t really know what my small business wants” sits relatively well here. Unless you’re in manufacturing (which most SMBs aren’t) then I don’t see many companies wanting to engage with SAP in this area. 
      You’re interview with Nukotoys about their cloud selection process was very interesting and counters my point here. To then flip that argument around, I believe the SAP sales partner that SAP had to sell ByDesign did an incredible job of positioning the software. SAP needs more of those partners in order to sell it properly. 

      • http://www.JonERP.com/ Jon Reed

        I think Oracle and SAP are both in for some hurt along these lines, and I don’t disagree that Oracle is built better to weather the storms, but I do think that the lack of push for Fusion that Dennis points out is a good example that Oracle is also going to struggle with business model change around cloud/what customers in 2015 will want from ERP.

        “Are you talking about my comment of “ByDesign’s failures were largely due to adding too many features too soon”? ”

        Yep, don’t agree. :) In the early years the problems were technical now I see sales cannibalization as a major impediment, as well as the problems SAP is running into getting partners up to speed, building out the SDK, etc. But maybe what you are saying about SAP being out of tune with small business covers this in a broader way. I still think the product can be successful but I don’t see the emphasis to make it so.

        • http://www.techdisruptive.com Mike Bestvina

          Yes, it’s much more of a broader explanation. I think I dive into a little more detail here: http://www.techdisruptive.com/2011/01/13/sap-needs-to-re-think-its-sme-strategy/ 

  • Dennis Howlett

    @Michael:disqus  
    - I think you are on the right track but there’s some important nuance here you might wish to consider:1. Vishal Sikka just resigned through 2017. 
    2. Vishal and sales don’t exactly get along
    3. Vishal is bullet proof – Hasso has seen to that

    So  - while the balance of power has not fundamentally shifted, there is enough air cover for Vishal’s group to keep doing what it is doing without it becoming a war of attrition.

    Now – does Lars bring a disruptive mentality? Sure – but he’s a sales guy not a development guy. He wouldn’t know a good app if it slapped him in the face…say my contacts. Go figure.

    SFSF attacks one tiny corner of the whole puzzle SAP has assembled. That of itself will freeze the SFSF people out of the SAP mainstream. Plus the fact they are not relocating from San Mateo. My sense is 2012 will be a ‘see how it shakes out’ year and then…if things look good, then they’ll be assimilated into someone’s team. Vishal’s? We’ll see.

    I’m on the fence re: BYD though I’ve been in and out of that tech for several years. They absolutely screwed up the architecture in the early days. They absolutely MUST simplify implementation if they are to remain relevant in the SME space. 

    There are 2 things that are barely public domain which give SAP a shot but they only get one more year to go at this:

    1. Consumer apps. Recalls Plus is a goos start but why oh why does it have to retrofit to an SAP stack?
    2. Developers. Without the easy onboarding of devs for stuff like HANA, Neo etc then none of this makes sense in a a world of proliferating apps outside the core. 

    Oracle? From what I hear they’re very timid about selling Fusion. Tepid in the US, almost non existent in EMEA. That would seem to blow a hole in your internal competition theory?

    • http://www.techdisruptive.com Mike Bestvina

      Dennis, points well taken. 

      Regarding, Vishal, I totally agree. I personally know many members of his team. They are simply some of the best developers and product managers within the walls of SAP. Not only is it truly good technology, but you can see how passionate he is about making a difference in the value the customer receives. I have no doubt he’s a massive influence to the board, but let’s not forget what happened with Shai. As I’ve pointed out, this all will depend on if SAP’s board (collectively) can agree to ignore the Street for a bit. I’m assuming Hasso knows this well…only time will tell I guess?I would love to see Lars/Vishal tag team.

      Even if Lars isn’t, as you say, “a dev guy” the fact that he’s been able to gain access to an enterprise market that has since shudder at the cloud, is fairly impressive. If he can gain the support of Vishal, perhaps he is. And yes, SAP needs more support for developers (externally speaking). This is what made Microsoft super successful in the 90′s. The fact is, most good development talent is going to the Facebook/Google’s of the world. I wrote about this before: http://www.techdisruptive.com/2011/06/16/whats-happening-to-the-next-generation-of-the-sap-ecosystem/ With the introduction of HTML5UI, Gateway, Neo, etc I’m hoping there is a re-emergence, but I’m scared it might be too late. Lest we not forget, the rockstar devs who helped support SAP throughout the late 90s and early 2000′s are a dying breed as they’ve most likely moved into managerial positions (running their owns companies most likely). 

      Confused about your Oracle Fusion comment – if they are timid to sell Fusion, doesn’t that support my argument that Oracle is better off with de-harmonized applications, and thus has focused internal competition?

      • Dennis Howlett

        Michael – Sounds like we’re probably on the same page or at least very close. I’m not convinced he’s a massive influence to the board…or ‘bored’ as he has said on occasion. 

        My hope (though I have to say it is fading) is that the devs inside the SAP ecosystem who still believe in the company will come forward. They do exactly that at DemoJam, InnoJam, TrainRace, SIT and many other events. But…the on going access and onboarding process is a definite showstopper right now. If they can show really cool stuff then curious devs will see where the real money can be made and jump over. 

        Fusion? Hmmm…all I know is that people I speak with are frustrated because Oracle’s other portfolio is now starting to stink. 

  • http://twitter.com/BoobBoo Chris Kernaghan

    WRT to Oracle having a more pirate-like outlook on their products, pitting them against each other like Microsoft has done internally for years – I do not see that as necessarily positive it can destroy teams and working relationships internally. I think that SAP have a strong enough leadership team on board to hold off any Wall street naysayers for a little while, but can they execute the vision in time I do not know.
    In my opinion ByDesign always looked like an onPremise Engineer’s fix to a functional problem that was fundamentally not onPremise, hence the architecture was wrong to start with. 
    How can you try to sell a subscription license when you are competing against a 90% margin product, it’s nearly impossible and the incentives for sales staff are all stacked against subscription – something here needs to change as SAP’s stack is more open than ever and SAP need to sell more of the new subscription apps in order to keep moving.

    • http://www.techdisruptive.com Mike Bestvina

      I don’t see it as positive either. I’m still scared for Oracle, but while working in silos does indeed have the adverse affects you point out, it also allow for silos to be easily killed off with much greater ease. 

      The subscription vs maintenance argument is going to puzzle every enterprise vendor. Totally agree. The way a company would combat this is to have an extremely efficient and well oiled machine, so that the system can easily scale both by human and technical resources. The traditional management concepts of “reduce costs by outsourcing, technology tools, etc” will not work. Hence my comment about “what core competency does SAP have to make cloud profitable?”. Amazon, with it’s razor thing margins is very profitable, but they’ve had years of refining their machine. The subscription price point is scaring the hell out of traditional software vendors. 

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